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Weekly roundup: Week 3 – 2014

Week 2 disappeared for me due to busy IRL, nothing to do with that. So, time to focus on week 3. I’ve been posting and crafting through week 2 as well, so I shouldn’t have lost any momentum.


Week 3 totals

Not so impressive profit this week. Sales are down to 170k, which may be a bit related to me not being as active as I was during christmas holidays. Still, I’ve done some massive purchases this week of both Sha Crystals and Ghost Iron ore – so even seeing a profit is kind of good news.


Top selling items – drums are still hot

Drums are still a hot seller, even though the average price has gone down a bit. Still, crafting costs around 6g it’s still turning over 100% profit. People are obviously still raiding, since potions sells well – and look at those prices! 8g+ for every jade serpent, that’s around 6g profit pr. pot.

Profession breakdown:


Jewelcrafting, bearing the costs of all Ghost Iron Ore – so it reports negative profits this week.














Disenchant shuffle

Disenchant shuffle still going strong, allthough I choked a bit on some strange dust and dream dust for a while – but I’ve made some modifications to the whole scheme to work around that.

I also had to deposit 100.000g in my guild bank to keep the repair option functionable, so that’s 100k that doesn’t show up on my graph from this point on.


Liquidity Lunchmoney Enterprises January 19th

Accounting for the 100.000g in the guild bank, liquidity pr. Jan 19th 2014:

3,829 million gold.


Weekly roundup: Week 1 – 2014

After an expensive December, 2014 is all about making gold. This requires steady upkeep, market diversity, and proper analysis. Let’s see how Lunchmoney Enterprises did the first week of January.

General notes: Finally got back my lost stock of wares thanks to a GM. He had to delete some of my characters to restore stuff, send it on, then undelete them etc. Was quite a mess. Anyway, that was in influx of 42000g + a full stock of gems and enchants.

First, let’s look at some sales in the different departments:


Cooking sales: 5298g


Alchemy sales: 8619g


Blacksmithing sales: 38990g


Enchanting sales: 88736g


Engineering sales: 7084g


Inscription sales: 8892g


Jewelcrafting sales: 57043g


Leatherworking sales: 46095g


Tailoring sales: 1446g (this does not look good)

The cooking sales is just me dumping my raiding consumable stock, so I will not pay any attention to that.

Note: this is sales, not profits. I have a few markets I will analyze a bit closer – I suspect they are starting to become a waste of bagspace.

Now I want to take a closer look at Tier 1 PVP gear for all armor types:

Blacksmith PVP: 1632g
Blacksmith Masterwork tank gear: 1867g
Leatherworker PVP (leather + mail): 11442g
Tailoring: 0g

These numbers speak for themselves, the market for tailoring tier 1 PVP gear is completely dead. I’m closing that down and converting current stock to Ethereal shards. The LW market is very strong, BS I’m not so sure, but not ready to give it up quite yet.

Shutting down a market is really easy, I just locate the group – kill the auctioning and crafting operations, and swap mailing operation to send it to my disenchanter.


Kill auctioning


Kill crafting, and change mail-operation

Let’s look at tier 2 PVP gear. For tailoring and leatherworking I don’t have all these recipes yet, since I’ve been moving some professions around, so I need to keep that in mind.


Blacksmith tier 2 PVP: 4227g


Leatherworking tier 2 PVP: 10723g

Tailoring tier 2 PVP: 581g

Starting to see a trend here. Tailoring PVP gear is really not in demand. I will be shutting it down to not keep wasting bagspace and time on this market.

How about tier 3 PVP gear? None of my crafters has all of these recipes.


Blasmithing tier 3 PVP: 3066g

Leatherworking tier 3 PVP: 4139g
Tailoring tier 3 PVP: 815g

Further investigating this reveals that all tier 3 PVP tailoring sales are cloaks. I will just shut down the armor-portion of this, and try to sell the 5 different cloaks for a bit.


Old world enchanting mats

Disenchant shuffle turned 9392g profit last week, + 10 scrolls of Mongoose and Executioner yet to be sold. I like this niche-market very much.


A weekly profit of 126.648g, or 18092g/day

All in all pretty satisfied with the week. Also got back 42.000g, but they don’t show in this window as I don’t record money transfers. Tailoring PVP gear is out, but I will keep a few tier 3 cloaks to see if they can be sold.

Had to spend 164.000g on materials this week since my stock took a detour, but now that I got it back i probably can relax a bit on restocking JC and Enchanting for a while.

Lunchmoney Enterprises liquidity January 5th, 2014


3,741 million gold

Still some way to go to 5 million!


About Lunchmoney Enterprises

There are countless strategies to make gold in World of Warcraft. This is mine.

There was a time where I had to consider every purchase I did on the auction house, if it was an investment I could afford or not. At some point I raided so much that I had to fly around in weekends picking terocone to fuel myself with elixirs. It was around this time I encountered my first money-making scheme; selling ZA-bears to randoms.

I had an extremely strong Sunwell-geared resto druid that could easily soloheal ZA. I had a friend who multiboxed 5 elemental shamans, and we had 3 other friends with us. 5 people, 10 characters, 1 buyer, 30 minute run – twice/week. This made me so much gold that I didn’t think about it before Lich King died.

Then i was broke again, and I decided that this is the last time.

I sold 30 something saronite thingys from ICC for a starter capital of approx 20.000g and started reading on interwebs for tips and tricks. I have never bought one of those stupid guides, they are just outright scam, or just common sense written down in PDF for you. Pointless either way.

I quickly learned that professions are the key to steady income, storage space and stockpiling increase the power of your punch, flipping is casino, farming is a big no-no, and competition can not be exterminated.

And addons. They are important.


The most important addon of all

Long story shortened: Lunchmoney Enterprises has now grown to a business spanning 11 characters with 22 professions, fielding an 8-tab guild bank for shared storage. Current working capital pr. 1.1.2014 is about 3.6 million.


Lunchmoney Enterprises

All 11 characters have their own important role in Lunchmoney Enterprises, and some of them actually play the game as well (raid). Those characters should not be hampered by being in the business, but with a little planning that can be worked around. This is how my workforce looks like:


EnchantingIconEngineeringIcon 90 Priest (Enchanting/Engineering) – My raiding main

BlacksmithingIconAlchemyIcon 90 Death Knight (Blacksmithing/Alchemy transmute)

LeatherworkingIconAlchemyIcon 90 Shaman (Leatherworking/Alchemy transmute)

JewelcraftingIconAlchemyIcon 90 Druid (Jewelcrafting/Alchemy transmute)

TailoringIconAlchemyIcon 90 Mage (Tailoring/Alchemy potions)

InscriptionIconAlchemyIcon 90 Paladin (Inscription/Alchemy elixirs)

MiningIconAlchemyIcon 85 Warrior (Mining/Alchemy transmute)

AlchemyIcon 85 Hunter (Alchemy transmute) – My janitor

AlchemyIcon 81 Warlock (Alchemy transmute) – Main bank #3

AlchemyIcon 81 Monk (Alchemy transmute) – Main bank #2

AlchemyIcon 81 Rogue (Alchemy transmute) – Primary bank

I want to have all professions covered, and professions with recipes requiring raids/rep etc should be on characters that will be more likely to be leveled and played. The goal is also to have as many alchemy transmutes as possible.

So, my priest is my raiding main – and alchemy sucks for raiding, so I use engineering because it rocks, and enchanting because I like to be able to DE stuff on the character i play the most – and the profession bonuses here are as good as the others. My priest also has maxed cooking and fishing, if there are some recipes to profit from in that department.

For the others, there is really no reason to have 2 non-alchemy professions on the same character, so all of them learn alchemy for transmute. I keep 1 potion and 1 elixir master for completeness – and one of those two is also given Inscription, to keep the distribution of herbs to a minimum. Preferably the potion master, but in my case it’s the elixir master.

Blacksmithing on the plate death knight, leatherworking on the leather shaman, and tailoring on the cloth mage – because it makes sense. Jewelcrafting is left for my druid for no particular reason other than him having had it for some years.

Smelting is left to one of the lesser alts, as is Inscription. Prior to 5.4, an 85 scribe was as good as a 90 if you discount the aquisition of Spirits of Harmony, and post-5.4 I still don’t plan to sell glyphs due to the operational hassle vs. reward it gives.

With all professions covered, the rest are irrelevant. Herbalism and skinning has no practical value for me – since I don’t farm due to large working capital. Archaeology … well. Maybe later.

Logistics (Alliance view)

The 3 bankers are parked in Darnassus, due to the short distance between the mailbox and AH. Since they get mailed all the stuff they need, they don’t need daily access to bank and gbank. Darnassus is also deserted, lag-free, horde-free, and generally an awesome place to hang out.

The Janitor needs a bit more flex, so it should be stationed in Ironforge or Stormwind. I prefer Ironforge, but I think Stormwind is a bit shorter distance-wise.

The tailor needs his hearthstone set close to Imperial Silk hangout, so a mage is perfect for this due to the teleporting-abilties.

The smelter should be in Stormwind due to the short distance from mailbox to the forge. Forget Thermal Anvils, 5 minute duration does not cut it when smelting 1500 bars at a time.

The Guild Bank, 8 tabs x 7 rows x 14 columns = 784 itemslots.
I use this for some long-term storage of more valuable stuff (mounts, lightbringer tabards), and as a general buffer for professions that sometimes bloat a bit. While shuffling the guild bank is nice to have to offload rare gems etc, or temporary storage for common ones before you proceed making jewellery of them.
Whatever way you look at it, 784 slots accessable by all your characters is pretty awesome. I once bought this guild for 250.000g, primarily because it had the Stay Classy guild achievement, which is the major roadblock to getting the 8th tab. Even raiding guilds have a hard time with that one.


Some JC buffering of a gbank-tab around christmas time

I used to keep 1 million gold in the guild bank for repairs and stuff, but after TSM_Accounting I had to withdraw it to make it show up on the graph.

Profession-spesific materials I try to keep in the respective characters banks. Some have less available, and some need more than others – so it’s nice to have the guild bank to offset this.

Market strategy

Different markets may have different strategies, but generally – as a business – Lunchmoney Enterprises follows a few general guidlines:

  • Efficiency. Streamline everything to require the least amount of upkeep. TSM 2 is the biggest contributor here.
  • Stockpile huge. Do you think Wal-Mart buy stuff by the hundreds? No, think bigger. LE can blow 2-300.000g on shopping in a single sitting if its required. Don’t run out of stuff, that’s for amateurs.
  • Diversify. Focus primarily on professions, as that’s generally easiest to streamline and gives steady returns. Try to aquire recipes that you could profit from.
  • Accept losses and close doors. Some items eventually stops selling. It’s bad being stuck with a large stockpile, but its even worse if that stockpile clogs up your bankers for months to come. Write off the losses and move on. Have the janitor take the trash out.
  • Audit yourself. Don’t think you can keep up with your operation when it grows past a certain point. Use the tools available to discover new markets and discard old ones.
  • Money doesn’t grow on trees, but it grows on money! Same goes for gold. Put that capital to use, don’t keep it in your bank just to look at. There are no interest rates on WoW savings.
  • Prioritize. Certain activities yields far greater gold/effort than others, and they should get focus first. Farting around with flipping, shuffling, and discovering new markets is done after proper upkeep is done.
  • Timing. Try to post at least before and after raid-time every day. My own raids start 19, so I usually have posted once or twice by then. Then I do one after, before bed-time. I’m @ work during daytime, so I am not posting then.
  • Size is king. I accept low or even negative margins in a market for a while if it makes competition demotivated. If someone tries to buy me out, I feed them until they chicken out.


You can’t get rid of competition, but you can outgrow them. My goal is never to antagonize or make other people angry, because someone focusing all their efforts causing mischief on the AH can actually hurt you for as long as they choose to dedicate their lives to doing so. Short-term, of course.

No, I try to demotivate them. I show them that I just don’t give a flying fart if they think my pandaren’s step is 30g lower than it should be.

Try to buy me out? Get your wallet out, an endless supply is coming your way.

Demotivation works best, crush the little guys. Ignore the big guys, the laws of the marketplace applies anyway.